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And as long as women, not men, are regarded as the sex objects, then that will continue to undermine male dominance, because women will be able to use their sex as a weapon. See, the feminists have long had it completely backwards: in reality, it is the sex object that holds the power, and the person who is irresistably drawn to adore the sex object who gives up their power. That is one thing that Camille Paglia is totally right about, in going on and on about the power that women have over men, because of the male fascination with the female body. But she fails to even consider that that is a reversal of our natural sex roles, and that in the absence of cultural conditioning it would be the women who would be fascinated and enthralled by the male body, not vice versa.

With regard to human evolution, twenty thousand years ago is just yesterday. Humans go back a million years, and our close primate progenitors go back a lot further. And all throughout Nature, females are fascinated by diplays of the male body. Only humans -- and only humans in some cultures -- seem to have undermined and reversed that. (And your generalization about tribes where men are highly decorated is just plain wrong; in most such tribes the men are actively engaged in hunting and warfare. Indeed, makup probably originated from war paint, or from ritualized body painting for hunting parties.)

With regard to ancient Greek culture and paederasty, you wrote: "Nevertheless, an undue interest in the naked male form is not generally regarded as a sign of men who are interested in women." You are still missing the point here: Greek men who regarded boys as sex objects did so because the boys were NOT men, but rather substitutes for WOMEN. There is a lot of physical similarity between a teenage boy and a woman, in both face and body; it's not difficult at all for a young woman to disguise herself as a teenage boy, and vice versa. Both women and boys have softer, rounder faces than men, and bodies that are smaller, weaker, and softer than a man's body. Young men in ancient Greece did not have the option of dating young women, because girls were cloistered away in their own homes until they were given away in marriage, as soon as they reached puberty. And only men who had served time in the military and had established a career were considered proper husband material; which meant that a man did not usually marry before the age of thirty.


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